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Comments on: IT helps researchers see their data like never before https://news.mst.edu/2013/08/it-helps-researchers-see-their-data-like-never-before/ Your source for the latest from Rolla Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:16:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.7 By: Mark Bookout https://news.mst.edu/2013/08/it-helps-researchers-see-their-data-like-never-before/#comment-4438 Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:19:25 +0000 https://news.mst.edu/?p=5860#comment-4438 V4DiR is largely focused on presenting data in a different way than charts and so on. I’m a little vague on exactly what you want to see, but a couple of things come to mind. First, for drilling down into detailed information, it sounds like a dynamic visual index is what you are seeking. The back end code for such a system was developed some years ago (and is now most likely lost) as an experiment. To see a pre-programmed visual index, look at braintrax.mst.edu and explore the algebra materials located there.

In a larger sense, V4DiR’s capability is oriented toward maximizing a human’s innate ability to identify visual pattern anomalies. In this regard, and especially since you are already located at S&T, I suggest that you bring a sample of data, and your current analysis tools, to a consultative meeting with some of the V4DiR team. There is no charge to explore your data and see what V4DiR can do with it, and you might give us some idea of additional functionality that we should incorporate into the V4DiR transformer software, which pre-processes the data based on researcher inputs. You can reach me here, markb@mst.edu, to set up a meeting if you wish.

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By: George Shannon https://news.mst.edu/2013/08/it-helps-researchers-see-their-data-like-never-before/#comment-4412 Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:42:17 +0000 https://news.mst.edu/?p=5860#comment-4412 In your opinion, does the possibility exist that V4DiR adds value when displaying graph data? I am a PhD student at S&T doing research in automated ontology learning and semantic search, and am looking for an innovative paradigm for viewing graph-based data. In addition to simply displaying an ontology in graph form, this would include an innovative approach to presenting search results that leverages the relationships in the ontology to help the user make sense out of results (rather than just dumping a list of related content aka Google). What I’d like to do is have the ability to provide the user with a “learning roadmap”, that is, a way to drill down into details and learn a subject from broad concepts down into important details. The ontology would provide the relationships, and I need an innovative way to present the results. Facebook is pursuing a graph-based results display. I’d be interested in your thoughts on potential use of V4DiR.

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By: Nicholas Eggleston https://news.mst.edu/2013/08/it-helps-researchers-see-their-data-like-never-before/#comment-4220 Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:19:29 +0000 https://news.mst.edu/?p=5860#comment-4220 In response to your comment, I am the student lead developer for Missouri S&T’s V4DiR project, and I’d like to acknowledge as well as dispute some of the issues you raise. First, I agree that claims of 3D are widely overused today, especially in commercial aspects (Not every new movie has to have a 3D version). However when it comes to researcher’s data, we don’t presume to know what method of visualization will be helpful for them in boosting and clarifying their research. The paper you reference makes mention of two definitions of “task”; one being a very broad view and the other more narrow and refined. V4DiR was designed, knowing full well that there is a need for both of these, and so it allows researchers to first get a grasp on what they’re looking at by giving them a broad view of the scope of all their data. Then, once they see something (or in the case of a future V4DiR release, something is detected for them) that would benefit the research they are hoping to accomplish, then they can home in on the specifics and begin the more narrow version of their “task”. In the referenced IEEE paper it is also clearly stated that projects like this often have four shortcomings (wrong problem, wrong abstraction, wrong encoding/interaction, wrong algorithm). V4DiR hopes to overcome all of these problems. Without this becoming a big list I’ll post a broad view of how we address these issues. First, by being highly extensible V4DiR allows a researcher to manipulate their data and filter it to get the results they need, so while they may not utilize every feature we offer, chances are one of them will help the researcher learn something that would have taken much longer to discover without our visualization tool. We have also written and revised our system and are continuing to evaluate its performance to make sure it is as quick and efficient as it can be, while still maintaining all its usefulness. As an example, an average size dataset of about 300,000 dataponts takes an average of two to five seconds to convert. A dataset of larger scale (in the several million datapoint range) converts in about the same time it would take to copy the raw data file to a flashdrive. Regarding your assertion that the researchers needs were not considered until the project was finished, I’m not sure where you derived this information, but it simply isn’t true. This project actually began because of a researcher’s needs and has grown into a continuous development effort since then. To wrap up, for some research, 3D isn’t a necessity, but the features provided by V4DiR can still prove useful to a researcher. V4DiR can also be useful in a 2D capacity and any researcher is welcome to use it in that regard. A researcher may choose to use a program like Excel or Tableau Public to view their data, but they simply cannot get the same experience as is available with V4DiR.

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By: Neils https://news.mst.edu/2013/08/it-helps-researchers-see-their-data-like-never-before/#comment-4201 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:49:02 +0000 https://news.mst.edu/?p=5860#comment-4201 It’s more about developing the conceptual math than satisfying arcane concepts of 3D. Being able to input complex and unbounded data sets to refine analysis is the end goal.

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By: anonymous https://news.mst.edu/2013/08/it-helps-researchers-see-their-data-like-never-before/#comment-4196 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 02:07:32 +0000 https://news.mst.edu/?p=5860#comment-4196 3D is a flagrantly misused encoding, especially for things like geospatial and abstract data. The only case mentioned in this article where it might be justified is in the case of mine exploration – and even that may not be appropriate. For an effective visualization, much depends on the scientists’ specific tasks (which clearly weren’t considered in this project until it was finished! Sure, it’s cute engineering, but unless the visualization is built around a well-articulated task with appropriate visual design considerations, it’s likely useless. See Munzner, T. (2009). A nested model for visualization design and validation. IEEE transactions on visualization and computer graphics, 15(6), 921–8. doi:10.1109/TVCG.2009.111).

A more perceptually accessible 2D map could be created with the same data in a couple hours in a program like Tableau Public (which is free).

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